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By drronaldf20719687, Jan 18 2017 05:32PM

Winter time in Wisconsin means the cool cars are put away or are getting built. Needless to say, we have been very busy building some very cool cars this winter. 66 Lincoln, 79 Mercedes, 71 Nova, 55 Chevy Pick Up, 72 GMC, 66 GTO…..

With restoration, while the mechanical part is very important for performance and safety, it is the paint that gets the most attention.

Long gone are the days of the $39.99 Earl Schiebe paint jobs. A typical paint job without having to do rust repair easily can run $4-8000 for a basic driver quality. Higher end jobs can go $6-10,000 and top show quality can run $15,000+. Why?

Material costs, environmental regulations, sanding/masking/cleaning supplies, insurance and of course, labor. A basic paint job includes; removing trim, bumpers, etc… Removing the existing finish, filling or metal working imperfection, priming, block sanding, more primer, more sanding, sealing and then the color goes on followed by a clear coat. Then you have to put all the trim back on. Throw in a rust spot or previously repaired panel, and you have several more hours and materials tossed in.

Don’t forget, you have to re-mask at each stage!

Now that the paint is on and dry, it needs to be wet sanded (cut) and polished. Depending on the desired quality, this can be very labor intensive.

Most paint is well over $150 per gallon. Reds can run over $300 a gallon. Want a metallic, pearl or candy? Now you have doubled the paint cost.

The days of shooting a couple coats of lacquer in your buddy’s garage are long gone.

Be sure to keep this in mind when deciding on building a project car. You can save some money by doing some of the mechanical on your own. But when it comes to paint and body work, many shops will not want to work on previous repairs. We cannot guarantee paint unless we start with bare metal. Reason being, many paint brands are not compatible. Did you use a rattle can of lacquer primer?

Unfortunately, the only real way to save money on a paint job is to have a very clean and straight car to start with. So, if you have rust, dents or other damage, expect to pay for those repairs.

If you have any questions or comments, please leave below, Thanks!

66 GTO bad previoius body work
66 GTO bad previoius body work
Prep work
Prep work
1966 Lincoln jambed
1966 Lincoln jambed
1966 Lincoln fresh paint
1966 Lincoln fresh paint
1966 Lincoln Continental final assembly
1966 Lincoln Continental final assembly

By drronaldf20719687, Jan 6 2016 07:28PM

What a year 2015 was!

If you have been following Bow Tie Cars for the last year, you have seen some incredible growth.

I started working out of a 600 square foot 3 car garage. Enough room to work on one car comfortably. By April, I was getting pretty busy and decided to hire some help. Roger has become my Go-To-Guy for everything including engines, paint and body work and wiring. With his knowledge and experience, I was free to do more marketing and management. By June we had 3 cars to work on.

As you may recall from a previous post, we had quite an adventure getting a new shop. The 3200 square foot shop was working very well…..for a while.

Within a couple months of being in the new space, we had 5 cars and a dump truck to work on. Things were starting to get cramped again. Plus, our paint area was inadequate and too small.

To fix that, we just added another 2000 square feet and a new paint booth to go in it. The booth will installed this weekend and we should be ready to paint in the next 2 weeks.

Since we only paint 1-2 cars a month doing restoration work, it seems to be a waste to let the booth sit empty for most of the month. To fix that, we started a Paint and Collision Center. We are now doing crash work and paint repair. If you have not already done so, please check out our new Bow Tie Cars Paint and Collision Center Facebook Page.

We have added another craftsman to the staff. Jordan, while young has a lot of experience working on older cars and trucks, and is fitting in well.

We also finally got our sign up. Looks great!

We now have enough space to work on 4-5 cars for total restoration at any one time and another 4-6 cars in the paint and collision area. Remember we also do routine maintenance as well as general repairs along with all of our restoration services.

While we specialize in older Chevrolet cars and trucks, we can and do work on all makes and models. Got a car or truck problem, give us a call. (920) 279-5521

First Shop Retoring Classic Cars and Trucks
First Shop Retoring Classic Cars and Trucks
New Shop-Ready to Restore old cars and trucks
New Shop-Ready to Restore old cars and trucks
Auto Restoration in Progress
Auto Restoration in Progress
New Sign
New Sign

By drronaldf20719687, Aug 27 2015 04:07AM

By the end of June, it was clear-We've run out of space. We started looking at potential shop spaces and found a nice space in Oshkosh. This space is owned by a non-profit with a board of directors. Needless to say, every issue had to go through the entire board. Negotiations dragged on and on. We had hoped to move in by the first of July.

As of the last week in July, we still had no lease. Then we found a very nice space in Neenah. Slightly smaller and a little more expensive, but it was available immediately.

Signed the lease and moved the shop on August 7. Of course it had to rain all day!

We delivered the 66 Mallibu we completed a 4 wheel disc brake conversion. Last car from the old garage. Later in the day, we took delivery of a 64 Malibu for a front disc brake conversion and power steering upgrade. Our first in the new shop.

Since then we have added a 81 Camaro for an engine swap and a 79 Firebird Formula for paint. We have a few others scheduled, including a 1927 Chevrolet for a paint job.

1020 American Dr 2-4 Neenah
1020 American Dr 2-4 Neenah
Back View of Shop - Need a Sign
Back View of Shop - Need a Sign
1966 Chevrolet Malibu
1966 Chevrolet Malibu
64 Chevrolet Malibu
64 Chevrolet Malibu
85 C10  81 Camaro and 79 Firebird
85 C10 81 Camaro and 79 Firebird
79 Firebird and 64 Malibu
79 Firebird and 64 Malibu

By drronaldf20719687, Jul 31 2015 05:55PM

In the auto repair business, there are a lot of variables that have to be considered when quoting a repair. Hidden damage and/or rust is common and can change the whole outlook of a repair.

On a recent project, we came across something very unusual.

A 1999 GMC Pickup came in with some rust and paint bubbles on the rocker panels and rear fenders. No holes were noted, so a quote for grinding the rust to bare metal, treating the metal with a rust treatment, body fill and paint was given. Total time for this repair should have only been 7-10 days.

We did find a rust through in one of the rockers and we welded in a patch. Ground all the rust, treated, body filled and painted. Everything looked great.

Called the owner to pick it up, but he was unable to do so until the next day.

When he came to pick it up, we noticed both rear fender lips had begun to bubble!

We immediately brought the truck back into the shop to investigate. Something under the body fill had seeped through and was causing the paint to bubble.

Thinking that a contaminant from the shop was the cause, the repair war repeated. This time, even before the top coat was applied, the primer began to bubble.

Upon further inspection, we noted rust proofing plugs on the inner fender (none in the rockers). What we found was a thick oily substance (naval jelly) that was seeping through the pores in the metal contaminating our repair. The only solution was to cut out the metal and replace with new metal patches.

We finally got the repair done. It took 4 weeks to complete, but the result was very good.

The owner swears no one had touched the truck and was unaware of the rust proofing.

1999 GMC Fender Rust
1999 GMC Fender Rust
1999 GMC Rocker Rust
1999 GMC Rocker Rust
rust repair 1999 GMC
rust repair 1999 GMC
Contamination paint bubbles
Contamination paint bubbles
1999 GMC Rust Repair complete
1999 GMC Rust Repair complete

By drronaldf20719687, Jul 5 2015 10:18PM

We put on the final finishing touches, cleaned and polished everything and got the car ready for dilivery.

A 100+ mile "Shake Down" cruise to deliver the car to its owner went fantastic. The Z28 has great power and acceleration, Cruises very well at 70mph at just over 1500 rpm. It was a pleasure to drive!

Everything worked well, and the owner was very happy to see the final product. We did need to re-tourque the lug nuts at arrival (very common with aluminum wheels).

With this project complete, it was time to clean up the shop and get ready for the next projects coming in next week. A 99 GMC for some rust repair and a 1972 Blazer for assembly and wiring. Stay tuned for updates!

Chekc out the before and after pictures of the 86 Camaro below:

1986 IROC Z28 Before-Need Paint and Engine Build
1986 IROC Z28 Before-Need Paint and Engine Build
1986 IROC Z28 After- Paint and Engine Build
1986 IROC Z28 After- Paint and Engine Build
Doc and Roger- Car Builders
Doc and Roger- Car Builders
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